Steven Putter
02.06.2014, 10:05:57This is the way to brainstorm and allow information of what works on the ground to flow. Lots of teething problems and the only way to sort them is to use it. sorry i missed it
+John Kellden 
Adelheid Hörnlein
28.05.2014, 15:56:54+John Kellden So very interesting these thoughts that the value is not dependent on the amount of posts or people in our circles. Also the importance of writing something about yourself in profile. Actually, if somebody circles me and I don't find information about them on their profile I don't circle them back..
Vera Tille
28.05.2014, 12:53:54Sorry was working maybe next ok
Alexandra Riecke-Gonzales
28.05.2014, 04:46:54One can't
+Herb Isenberg! That's the fascinating thing about communication... It is our own creation and thus subjective.
Now, there are scholars who believe we can figure out structures and rules that the majority of people follow in given situations, and there are others who believe this is an inaccurate and simplified representation of the complex and ever evolving activity of communication... So it's really up to
you to decide what meaning really means lol
Becky Coleman
28.05.2014, 04:39:11Your greenhouse a quonset shape? That would be kinda cool to put up a rainbow on the end,
+joe breskin.
joe breskin
28.05.2014, 04:25:30Today was a big day over here and I left the HOA a little early early to go be an "explainer" as part of our annual inspection for re-certification as USDA Organic growers. The inspector was sort of mind-blown by taste of ripe tomatoes and the feel of controlled humidity in the heat pump heated greenhouse. I heard later that we had passed the inspection with "rainbow" colors.
Becky Coleman
28.05.2014, 03:45:28Do-u-ble the me-an-in-g of words.
Herb Isenberg
28.05.2014, 03:36:08When you use the concept of meaning are you referring to semantics ? If so, this will require a paradigm shift, as moving from the talk or sounds people make to inferring "meaning" is a very subjective enterprise and subject to interpretation. What is typically labeled as "meaning" may change over the course of conversation, and to infer that what a speaker is saying has meaning take a big leap of faith, this is only my opinion, yet, think about it, "How can one know for certain what an other meaning is over the course of a conversational interaction ?"
Alexandra Riecke-Gonzales
28.05.2014, 03:07:08I missed an interesting conversation here! What caught my interest most was this discussion about meaning.
The meaning of a Plus one and the meaning of an idea with the self versus with others. This is intriguing because, as you kind of point out
+John Kellden, we are sharing these ideas and plussing posts in a virtual space. The person behind the screen for the most part, and their intentions, are unknown to us. And
yet we find meaning in the actions that these unknown individuals take.
I will pretty much always return to framing but in this case it's interesting to consider the frame being taken: We frame the frame of others. We attempt to understand who the person behind the screen is so that we can discover the meaning of their actions... But the understanding of that individual is framed by us.
Loopy stuff :)
Herb Isenberg
28.05.2014, 00:22:58I was hoping to make it; will watch the video and provide input very soon. Appreciate all you are doing for the community !
John Kellden
27.05.2014, 23:27:44Big thanks to all who participated, all who listened, to all great ideas, perspectives and sheer generosity, with your time, your attention. I'll read this through carefully and curate this thread into a Conversation Community post, where everyone is welcome to build further.
Tim Kitchin
27.05.2014, 23:09:13Sorry, (for me), to miss the convo' today, John. Starting to watch it back now. Will complete tomorrow. Engaging and measured as always - am interpreting you so far not so much issuing a clarion call to listen out for the 'human act', but offering a validation that we do already create this reality between the words and images in acting as media (in a much deeper identifying sense than is normally meant by glibnesses liue 'we the media'...and to pay attention to that mediation process in the fractions of a second that we have before pressing........."Share". Feeling-provoking...thankyou.
Farinaz Parsay
27.05.2014, 21:00:56+John Kellden Thank you so much for a great conversation.
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:56:35Thank you very much
+John Kellden! :)
Volker Harbecke
27.05.2014, 20:56:16Thanks to YOU,
+John Kellden !
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:54:41Let's start charging for our Big Data. :)
Becky Coleman
27.05.2014, 20:52:48Things like librarians.
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:49:37 #PostHoardersAnonymous - When you have a long-term problem of saving posts but don't comment. :)
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:41:29Scientists are people too. ;)
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:37:56+Snowshoe The Hangout Cat does not believe that his presence is a waste of bandwidth. :)
Volker Harbecke
27.05.2014, 20:30:59from A to B or how else? I read this book: John Kay, Obliquity.Why our goals are best achieved indirectly. It was helpful for me.
Becky Coleman
27.05.2014, 20:22:40Not road map. Sign posts. Show major nodes of
activity.
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:16:08The subconscious speaks Swedish. :)
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:13:41My neocortex is nearly always happy. :-))
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:07:21Version One is better than Version One. :)
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:06:12I'm lurking but
not twerking today
+John Kellden :)
Elwin Green
27.05.2014, 20:03:02+Volker Harbecke yes, my computer has decided not to recognize my camera. Time to fiddle with things.
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:02:08What actually is a "digital artifact"
+John Kellden?
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 20:00:38Intention is more important than content.
vijay kachru
27.05.2014, 20:00:37reluctantly, i must leave. Thank you
+John Kellden for an amazingly wonderland view.....I can't wait to renew.
Elwin Green
27.05.2014, 19:57:49Shucks. I can't figure out how to get back in.
Volker Harbecke
27.05.2014, 19:55:39"you need to unlearn things" ; yes,
+John Kellden , strip of the handcuffs
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:54:55Also, typing at keyboards can often cause the camera to periodically shift to the tapper.
Elwin Green
27.05.2014, 19:54:32Hello again...
Linda Rogers
27.05.2014, 19:51:52Pretty important to use a headset so as not to cause feedback.
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:50:53And you
love The Beatles
+John Kellden :)
vijay kachru
27.05.2014, 19:49:20short cut=Let go
Love this!
vijay kachru
27.05.2014, 19:47:26Considerate is not condescension. You can't say thank you enough! enormous appetite for being thanked.
Gratitude, trust, love, community...Equals belief and practice of inclusiveness.
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:44:26+Linda Rogers - I'd rather have a frequently-engaged smaller number of people than a large number of followers who do little to nothing. It's very much like the idea of having a large email list of regular people versus a highly-curated list of
buyers.
vijay kachru
27.05.2014, 19:44:08The driving analogy answered my earlier question.. John!!! part of the process is not knowing all the answers. Map and territory..conundrum!
Linda Rogers
27.05.2014, 19:42:11In some circles having 7M pageviews would be seen as an indicator of being LESS busy. I keep getting from people "I'm too busy for social media. You must have more time than me if you have time for this stuff."
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:33:41I'd
love to do an interview with you
+John Kellden. I too have recently done an interview with Martin and I am interviewing David Amerland tomorrow on my new show,
Epic Influencers. :)
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:24:43Conversation is great for conversion.
vijay kachru
27.05.2014, 19:23:52Question! So what and how do we stay consistent. I s consistency even relevant. if not we are forever turning the wheel toward a different marker?
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:23:44I'd like a "roadmap of my mind".... Sometimes I get lost inside here. :)
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:22:15I'm one of 140 characters whom I know. ;)
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:21:20If your brain contains anything at all, and you are capable of expressing your brain's (or heart's) content, you have authentic content marketing.
#authenticity Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:20:06Your personal story
is your content marketing.
vijay kachru
27.05.2014, 19:17:54"a good comment is worth 10 posts"
+John Kellden Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 19:17:02Here's me having a cup of coffee with my cat hissing at me. ;)
Linda Rogers
27.05.2014, 19:16:36Whether lurkers are a problem in an online community seems to me to relate to resources and that varies by platform.
Becky Coleman
27.05.2014, 19:05:18Maybe not road map, but reveal the underlying topology, topography of the active operations of the community.
David Physick
27.05.2014, 19:05:04I enjoyed listening in. I have a train journey into London tomorrow, which provides time to reflect and ruminate on all the interesting stuff that's been said. Thank-you. Must go now!
Becky Coleman
27.05.2014, 18:58:18John is the carbon atom. We form molecules as a grid portion of the whole, using the carbon ability to create variety.
David Physick
27.05.2014, 18:56:13Psychologically, I recall reading somewhere, we can't manage more than 50 meaningful relationships. Tom Peters used to say the optimal size of a business unit was 150. 900 in this group, 29000 in John's circles. How do we move through the boundaries of the walls of optimally sized cells as do molecules in osmosis?
David Physick
27.05.2014, 18:43:53Some folk have made lots of money from their cats and dogs post by virtue of being approached to have their YouTube video fronted by a 10 second advert. Social networks quickly get monetised. Let's not forget the gestation of Facebook - blokes at Harvard wanting to rank sexiness of female students, which I find distasteful and keeps me away from FB
Becky Coleman
27.05.2014, 18:39:27Conversation as community furnace.
Becky Coleman
27.05.2014, 18:38:35Cool. You put it out, Lee. We work to aneal. Like a fine blade.
Grizwald Grim
27.05.2014, 18:37:23Pretty sure that's as many people as can be inside a hangout
+Linda Rogers Becky Coleman
27.05.2014, 18:37:15Never done. Put it out there.
Linda Rogers
27.05.2014, 18:36:43watching but don't see option to join. Perfectly okay, have nothing to add of note.
Grizwald Grim
27.05.2014, 18:33:55Howdy :)
Annabelle Howard
27.05.2014, 18:25:19Balancing stones is a wonderful thing to do! Thanks for the reminder :D
joe breskin
27.05.2014, 18:22:35watching on the embedded link - the hoa tab won't go past the "You are about to join a Hangout On Air" screen ...
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 18:21:13Whoops! Gotta run to another hangout for my David Amerland conversation tomorrow. Will check in later... on the replay.
Christopher Vogelmann
27.05.2014, 18:18:41Just arrived for a fly by.... Hope everyone is well.
David Physick
27.05.2014, 18:18:39Watching and listening - not used Google + like this before - tend to use Go To Meeting.
Volker Harbecke
27.05.2014, 18:15:58meanwhile arrived for watching ....; hi, everybody
Martin Dewhurst
27.05.2014, 18:05:37Sorry John, mic/vid not working on this machine, will catch up with you again soon, hope the hangout goes well
joe breskin
27.05.2014, 18:02:19watching (instead of greenhousing ... ) at least for a while
Jan Friman
27.05.2014, 17:59:56Checking in on a very weak connection. I beg everyones forgiveness in advance, since i know will be on and off. Looking forward to the conversation!
Elwin Green
27.05.2014, 17:59:34Greetings from Pittsburgh!
Anne-Marie Valton
27.05.2014, 17:58:58I am here to watch too!! Hi to all
Terry Brown
27.05.2014, 17:57:34Hello all!
Farinaz Parsay
27.05.2014, 17:56:42Hello everyone, I am here to watch :)
Thabo Mophiring
27.05.2014, 17:54:13Aaargh! Delayed at the IBM conference. Will listen later
Alexandra Riecke-Gonzales
27.05.2014, 17:31:18I now have a meeting at this time :( but I'll watch it later! Have fun!!
Peter Feltham
27.05.2014, 13:04:32Yes Look forward to that
+John Kellden John Kellden
27.05.2014, 13:01:56No prob
+Peter Feltham let's have a chat soon!
Peter Feltham
27.05.2014, 12:52:12Arrgh! I have another urgent meeting to attend, so will have to watch the playback version too. Sorry
+John Kellden - I was looking forward to this.
John Kellden
27.05.2014, 09:45:41No prob whatsoever
+Chris Beveridge - let's find a time for a one on one, in the foreseeable future.
Chris Beveridge
27.05.2014, 09:44:44I didn't see the time zone and just realized this is at 9 my time. I'm double booked, I truly apologize. I'll watch the playback for sure
John Kellden
27.05.2014, 07:51:57+Zaq Mosher good to hear from you - looking forward to catchup, comparing notes, what you see as possible future options. Ping me whenever.
John Kellden
27.05.2014, 07:50:50+Ferananda Ibarra would love to have a chat re gifting.
John Kellden
27.05.2014, 07:50:03No prob
+Kika Pott - publishing beams ->>>
Zaq Mosher
27.05.2014, 04:34:44Working tomorrow, but this summer I'm looking for to a great deal more free time and involvement with things and processes.
Ferananda Ibarra
27.05.2014, 01:59:11Tuesday 9am doesnt work for me. I have a circle meeting every week. Bu...its my only fixed time.
Kika Pott
26.05.2014, 19:56:32+John Kellden Hi John, I'm terrible sorry, this is my time of the year when I have to hunt down my publishing houses to pay me my royalties. Just this year I found 12 eBooks of mine that none had told me. I am a bit distressed right now.
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 16:34:21+Herb Isenberg it's a great question and topic to explore.
The topic in the Conversation Community that might be
the best fit is Metalogue:
http://goo.gl/rByZp8You are most welcome to join:
http://goo.gl/8ClYCGonce you've joined, you can tell other members a little bit about yourself and
what conversations you'd like to engage in, by writing an Introductions post:
http://goo.gl/36XY3lHerb Isenberg
26.05.2014, 16:26:19I have a question regards the intention of this hangout; is this to discuss or form a group regarding approaches for the investigation and analysis of human conversation and conversational behavior ? If not would someone please explain the intention and purpose of this group.
Personally, I am very interested in Conversational Analysis in order to develop a method of analysis that is independent of language, culture and gender. This is what I have been doing for quite some time now; And if the group is interested I would suggest taking a look at the writings of Havey Sacks, one of the originators of the field of Conversational Analysis. For the group's convenience here are a couple of links that may be of interest - see below, and Please let me know if other's share a common interest:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_sdt=0,5&q=harvey+sacks&hl=enA simplest systematics for the organization of turn-taking for conversation
H Sacks, EA Schegloff, G Jefferson - Language, 1974 - JSTOR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Sacksvijay kachru
26.05.2014, 16:11:50I will try..If I can't tomorrow... certainly look forward to the video.
Nancy Andres
26.05.2014, 16:09:48I will listen to the recording later tomorrow. Too much to do early on. Thanks for the invite John Kellden. I look forward to hearing and seeing you.
Nancy Andres, Author of Colors of Joy: A Woman's Guide for Self-Discovery, Balance, and Bliss
Lynn Keller
26.05.2014, 16:02:44Thanks for the invite John, I have patients scheduled @ that time.
will catch what I can and see the recorded session.
Sophie Wrobel
26.05.2014, 15:01:06Timeslot is booked already. :( Will look forward to the recording, and catching up after the event!
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 10:25:32As an additional service to all those who have answered Yes, or Maybe - after the Event, I will ping as many of you as a G+ post permits, in the Conversation Community, where I will put links to the HoA and to related conversations.
To all those who've answered No, I appreciate you taking the time to give feedback. All feedback is valuable. To all of you who will not be able to give feedback, no worries whatsoever, another time, another serendipity.
Diana Swan
26.05.2014, 09:52:27thank you so much for the invitation, will try but stuck at work!!
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 09:46:49Thanks
+Abu S.M. Nazem and thanks for your insightful posts in the Conversation Community.
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 09:45:49Everyone who has seen, joined, supported, provided feedback, helped make a whole lot of the
Conversation Community happen, and is continuing to Making Things Happening,
any which size, shape or serendipity, my thanks.
For everyone else happening to discover this event and thread, take a look at the guest list:
some of the brightest best bunch of people on the planet - and you get to connect with them
by just asking them nicely about something you are interested in.
If this is not awesome, I don't know what is.
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 09:40:32Most welcome
+Terry Brown !
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 09:39:57+Justin Williams thanks! I've moved you to a notifications circle.
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 09:24:18I really like your whole stream of posts
+Alessio Dessi - always welcome!
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 09:19:55+Herb Isenberg that's a keen perspective - would love to hear your thoughts on analysis and analytics in the Conversation Community. (links in the event post)
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 09:17:47That'd be great
+Elwin Green much appreciated. And great posts recently as well, thanks!
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 09:16:32+Ivan Sherman long time no chat! Let's find a time in the foreseeable future.
Alessio Dessi
26.05.2014, 07:51:13thanks for the invite, but I will be out and cannot attend. Next time
Justin Williams (Psyangha)
26.05.2014, 04:26:17I'm driving across country so I can't make it but would love to be invited again in the future. Thanks.
Terry Brown
26.05.2014, 03:14:09Thank you for the invite
+John KelldenElwin Green
26.05.2014, 03:00:57Thanks for the invite,
+John Kellden - see you then! Shall I spread the word to my circles?
Cynthia Bush
26.05.2014, 01:51:2410 AM EST USA ?
Ivan Sherman
26.05.2014, 01:48:27I'd love to attend, but have an 11 am doctor's appt. so I guess I'm left out. It's unfortunate because I've been following a lot of the conversations and am not sure of the purpose. I wish I could be more helpful.
Herb Isenberg
26.05.2014, 01:43:59Looking forward to hearing everyone's approach to analyzing conversation, I hope to attend;
Bettina Ascaino
26.05.2014, 01:31:51Thanks,
+John Kellden :) It's at 2am down under, so I might watch it the day after, unless is one of those nights I can't sleep!
Peter Feltham
26.05.2014, 01:19:26Thanks!
Peter Feltham
26.05.2014, 01:10:23Which time zone
+John Kellden ?
Peter Feltham
26.05.2014, 01:08:13Thanks for the invite
+John Kellden !
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 00:29:16Most welcome
+Cynthia Bush !
John Kellden
26.05.2014, 00:28:53+Alan Lepofsky I hope to have a couple of people there to say a few words about some of the things we're working on in the Conversation Community.
Cynthia Bush
26.05.2014, 00:22:48I will definitely try to be there!
Doctor's hours are so unpredictable *~))
Alan Lepofsky
26.05.2014, 00:20:30What's the topic/goal of the meeting? Who's speaking? Everyone openly, or just specific presenters?
Hans Youngmann
26.05.2014, 00:09:14Right during work hours for me, have a great Hangout :-)
Richard Pouncy
26.05.2014, 00:07:21Sorry, will not be available at that time.
